Nations vote for the ruleset - voting ended

Latest news and chat from the X-Wing side event European Team Championship.

Moderators: ETC moderators, Keepers of the Peace

jagosaja
Posts: 82
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:01 am

Nations vote for the ruleset - voting ended

Postby jagosaja » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:44 pm

Greetings fellow pilots!

In order to get things moving, a questionnaire has been formed to see what kind of X-Wing tournament would players most prefer to see at ETC this year. Below is a set of questions which regard teams and format of the tournament, and it would be nice if all nations could answer and publish their votes as soon as possible. Therefore a deadline will be set to April 10th at 23:59 after which votes will be counted and ruleset formed. All votes are public. In case of a draw on a certain question regarding format, Rules committee (consisting of Salnihra, Meldon and Jagosaja (myself)) will make an internal vote and decide on the matter.

Do keep in mind that only captains can vote. In case a captain cannot vote for any reason, or a captain has not been chosen yet, choose a spokesperson which will have same rights as captain regarding voting.

Please answer on the following questions:

1. Nation name

2. Name of team captain and e-mail

3. Name of spokesperson and e-mail (may be left blank if captain is the one speaking for the team)

4. Preferred match duration:
a) 60 minutes
b) 75 minutes
c) other (put your own suggestion here)

5. Preferred number of days for ESC (singles) play and preferred dates:
a) one day
b) two days
c) other (put your own suggestion here)

6. Preferred number of days for ETC (teams) play and preferred dates:
a) two days
b) three days
c) other (put your own suggestion here)

7. Preferred number of matches to be played per day for ETC:
a) 4 matches
b) 5 matches
c) other (put your own suggestion here)

8. What should be the tournament style:
a) straight swiss style tournament to the end
b) a cut for top teams at the end of 6 (an example in case of total 8 matches played) rounds of swiss as per classic FFG tournaments
c) round robin (every team plays against every other team)
d) other (put your own suggestion here)

9. Points system used in a single game:
a) classic FFG system (5 for major win, 3 for minor win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss)
b) 0-20 points system (margin of victory is divided in ten groups so a draw is a 10-10 score, points difference of 1-10 is a 11-9 score, points difference of 11-20 is a 12-8 score,..., points difference of 91-100 is a 20-0 score)
c) 0-10 points system (margin of victory is divided in five groups so points difference of 0-19 is a 5-5 score, points difference of 20-39 is a 6-4 score,..., points difference of 80-99 is a 9-1 score, points difference of 100 is a 10-0 score)
d) other (put your own suggestion here)

10. Should the points cap be introduced (so no team could get 0 or maximum points from a single match)?
a) yes
b) no

11. If answer on question 10. was yes, should cap be introduced:
a) Only at first match
b) At every match
c) other (put your own suggestion here)


Thank you for the time and effort.
Last edited by jagosaja on Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:41 am, edited 3 times in total.
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2013 - Vampire Counts
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2014 - Vampire Counts
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2015 - Beastmen
X-Wing ETC 2016 member of Rules Committee
X-Wing ETC Team Serbia 2016 - Captain
X-Wing ETC Team Serbia 2017 - Captain

Marcellvs
Posts: 21
Joined: Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:46 am
Anti-Spam Filter: No
Pick number 4 to enter: 4

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset

Postby Marcellvs » Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:37 pm

1. Nation name
TEAM SPAIN

2. Name of team captain and e-mail
Marcelo Soto - marceloverdadero@gmail.com

3. Name of spokesperson and e-mail (may be left blank if captain is the one speaking for the team)

4. Preferred match duration:
b) 75 minutes per match and 100 minutes per round

5. Preferred number of days for ESC (singles) play and preferred dates:
a) one day (5th of August)

6. Preferred number of days for ETC (teams) play and preferred dates:
a) two days (6th & 7th of August)

7. Preferred number of matches to be played per day for ETC:
a) 5 matches

8. What should be the tournament style:
a) straight swiss style tournament to the end

9. Points system used in a single game:
d) other (put your own suggestion here): 5-0, 3-1, 1-1

10. Should the points cap be introduced (so no team could get 0 or maximum points from a single match)?
a) yes

11. If answer on question 10. was yes, should cap be introduced:
b) At every match
Last edited by Marcellvs on Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
=================================================
X-Wing ETC Team Spain 2016 - Captain
X-Wing ETC Team Spain 2017 - Captain
Our twitter: @TeamSpainXwing
Member of Petreos the biggest X-Wing community
in Valencia https://www.facebook.com/PetreosValencia/
=================================================

Skindog
Posts: 14
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:16 pm
Anti-Spam Filter: No
Pick number 4 to enter: 4

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset

Postby Skindog » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:02 pm

Hi guys,

Sam, Team England Captain here. Our team is unanimous and very strongly believe the FFG ruleset is sound and shouldn't be messed around with so our votes are as follows;

1. Team England

2. Sam Cox (SamCox1988@hotmail.com)

3. Name of spokesperson and e-mail (may be left blank if captain is the one speaking for the team)

4. Preferred match duration:
b) 75 minutes


5. Preferred number of days for ESC (singles) play:
a) one day
5th Aug

6. Preferred number of days for ETC (teams) play:
a) two days
6 & 7th Aug


7. Preferred number of matches to be played per day for ETC:
b) 5 matches

8. What should be the tournament style:
b) a cut for top teams at the end of 6 (an example in case of total 8 matches played) rounds of swiss as per classic FFG tournaments


9. Points system used in a single game:
a) classic FFG system (5 for major win, 3 for minor win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss)


10. Should the points cap be introduced (so no team could get 0 or maximum points from a single match)?
b) no

11. If answer on question 10. was yes, should cap be introduced:
Last edited by Skindog on Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:38 pm, edited 2 times in total.
X-Wing ETC 2016 England Team Captain

jagosaja
Posts: 82
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:01 am

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset

Postby jagosaja » Sun Mar 27, 2016 9:37 pm

Team Serbia votes like this:

1. Serbia
2. Jagoš Uskoković, jagos81@yahoo.com
3.
4. b) 75 minutes
5. a) one day (5th August)
6. a) two days (6th and 7th August)
7. a) 4 matches
8. a) straight swiss style tournament to the end
9. b) 0-20 points system (margin of victory is divided in ten groups so a draw is a 10-10 score, points difference of 1-10 is a 11-9 score, points difference of 11-20 is a 12-8 score,..., points difference of 91-100 is a 20-0 score)
10. a) yes
11. b) At every match
Last edited by jagosaja on Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2013 - Vampire Counts
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2014 - Vampire Counts
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2015 - Beastmen
X-Wing ETC 2016 member of Rules Committee
X-Wing ETC Team Serbia 2016 - Captain
X-Wing ETC Team Serbia 2017 - Captain

Lemur
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:58 pm
Anti-Spam Filter: No
Pick number 4 to enter: 4

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset - deadline April 10th at 23:59

Postby Lemur » Wed Mar 30, 2016 11:48 am

Team Poland will vote in a few days, we are choosing team members this weekend. Just wanted to let you know that we remember about the vote :) I'll edit this post as soon as we will have our votes.

Voxnovanion
Posts: 6
Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2015 8:16 pm
Anti-Spam Filter: No
Pick number 4 to enter: 4

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset - deadline April 10th at 23:59

Postby Voxnovanion » Sun Apr 03, 2016 8:10 pm

Please answer on the following questions:

1. Nation name
The Netherlands

2. Name of team captain and e-mail
Jacob Boersma, jboersma@novanion.nl

3. Name of spokesperson and e-mail (may be left blank if captain is the one speaking for the team)
N/A

4. Preferred match duration:
c) 90-120 minutes. An important part of the ETC is having enough time to finish games, while being able to really think about your tactics. This is why Warhammer 40K games for example have 4 hours at the ETC. I think X-wing too should get longer games, so a game always finishes naturally and doesn't ever go to time (similar to games in Vassal leagues).

5. Preferred number of days for ESC (singles) play:
a) one day (with 90 minute rounds) on 5th of August

6. Preferred number of days for ETC (teams) play:
a) two days (with at least 105 minute rounds) on 6th and 7th of August

7. Preferred number of matches to be played per day for ETC:
a) 4 matches (due to longer round times 5 is probably not feasible)

8. What should be the tournament style:
c), if number of teams permitting, otherwise b)

9. Points system used in a single game:
a) classic FFG system

10. Should the points cap be introduced (so no team could get 0 or maximum points from a single match)?
a) yes, to keep a team from acquiring a runaway lead

11. If answer on question 10. was yes, should cap be introduced:
b) at every match
Last edited by Voxnovanion on Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:14 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Toffolone
Posts: 139
Joined: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:37 pm

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset - deadline April 10th at 23:59

Postby Toffolone » Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:25 am

I reply as Standing captain for team Italy, although no team has been choosen yet,

1. Nation name
ITALY

2. Name of team captain and e-mail
ROBERTO SAVINO - savinoroberto@hotmail.com

3. Name of spokesperson and e-mail (may be left blank if captain is the one speaking for the team)
Same as above

4. Preferred match duration:
75 minutes

5. Preferred number of days for ESC (singles) play:
ONE DAY - 4th of AUGUST

6. Preferred number of days for ETC (teams) play:
two days - 5th and 6th of August

7. Preferred number of matches to be played per day for ETC:
5 matches

8. What should be the tournament style:
straight swiss style tournament to the end

9. Points system used in a single game:
0-20 points system (margin of victory is divided in ten groups so a draw is a 10-10 score, points difference of 1-10 is a 11-9 score, points difference of 11-20 is a 12-8 score,..., points difference of 91-100 is a 20-0 score)

10. Should the points cap be introduced (so no team could get 0 or maximum points from a single match)?
yes

11. If answer on question 10. was yes, should cap be introduced:
At every match
Last edited by Toffolone on Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:32 am, edited 1 time in total.

Skindog
Posts: 14
Joined: Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:16 pm
Anti-Spam Filter: No
Pick number 4 to enter: 4

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset - deadline April 10th at 23:59

Postby Skindog » Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:32 pm

I don't see why people are voting for a maximum number of points to be earned from each round, surely if there is a limit in each round it is pointless having a bottom points bracket and a top points bracket? For example in the 20pts system it is pointless having the 91-100 points bracket if no team can earn a 20-0 win. It means an 81-90pts win is the same as a 91-100 win.....
X-Wing ETC 2016 England Team Captain

jagosaja
Posts: 82
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:01 am

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset - deadline April 10th at 23:59

Postby jagosaja » Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:33 pm

I kindly ask you to discuss proposed rules at appropriate section of the forum and leave this section for voting only.
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2013 - Vampire Counts
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2014 - Vampire Counts
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2015 - Beastmen
X-Wing ETC 2016 member of Rules Committee
X-Wing ETC Team Serbia 2016 - Captain
X-Wing ETC Team Serbia 2017 - Captain

jagosaja
Posts: 82
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:01 am

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset - deadline April 10th at 23:59

Postby jagosaja » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:15 pm

One more thing, please.

The whole of ETC is being held from 3rd to 7th of August. When deciding upon how many days team and singles championship will be held, please write down your proposal which days would you like the competition to take place.

First post will be updated accordingly.
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2013 - Vampire Counts
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2014 - Vampire Counts
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2015 - Beastmen
X-Wing ETC 2016 member of Rules Committee
X-Wing ETC Team Serbia 2016 - Captain
X-Wing ETC Team Serbia 2017 - Captain

Lemur
Posts: 7
Joined: Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:58 pm
Anti-Spam Filter: No
Pick number 4 to enter: 4

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset - deadline April 10th at 23:59

Postby Lemur » Tue Apr 05, 2016 4:55 pm

1. Nation name
Team Poland

2. Name of team captain and e-mail

3. Name of spokesperson and e-mail (may be left blank if captain is the one speaking for the team)
Jakub "Lemur" Siedlecki
jakubsiedlecki41@gmail.com

4. Preferred match duration:
e) 75 minutes

5. Preferred number of days for ESC (singles) play and preferred dates:
a) one day (5th of August)


6. Preferred number of days for ETC (teams) play:
b) two days (6-7th of August)

7. Preferred number of matches to be played per day for ETC:
a) 5 matches

8. What should be the tournament style:
a) straight swiss style tournament to the end

9. Points system used in a single game:
d) other: 5-0, 3-1, 2-2

10. Should the points cap be introduced (so no team could get 0 or maximum points from a single match)?
a) yes

11. If answer on question 10. was yes, should cap be introduced:
b) At every match

Shawtie
Posts: 2
Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:46 pm
Anti-Spam Filter: No
Pick number 4 to enter: 4

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset - deadline April 10th at 23:59

Postby Shawtie » Thu Apr 07, 2016 2:57 pm

hey there,

Tom, Team Wales Captain here. Our team strongly believe the FFG ruleset is sound and shouldn't be messed around (if it aint broke; dont fix it) with so our vote is as follows;


1. Nation name
Wales

2. Name of team captain and e-mail
Tom Mortlock blango87@hotmail.com

3. Name of spokesperson and e-mail (may be left blank if captain is the one speaking for the team)

4. Preferred match duration:
b) 75 minutes

5. Preferred number of days for ESC (singles) play and preferred dates:
a) one day 5th Aug)

6. Preferred number of days for ETC (teams) play and preferred dates:
a) two days (6th and 7th)

7. Preferred number of matches to be played per day for ETC:
b) 5 matches

8. What should be the tournament style:
b) a cut for top teams at the end of 6 (an example in case of total 8 matches played) rounds of swiss as per classic FFG tournaments

9. Points system used in a single game:
a) classic FFG system (5 for major win, 3 for minor win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss)

10. Should the points cap be introduced (so no team could get 0 or maximum points from a single match)?
b) no

11. If answer on question 10. was yes, should cap be introduced:
n/a

salnihra
Posts: 30
Joined: Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:35 am
Anti-Spam Filter: No
Pick number 4 to enter: 4

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset - deadline April 10th at 23:59

Postby salnihra » Fri Apr 08, 2016 7:57 am

Hello Everyone,

Please see below the preferences of Team Turkey.

1. Nation name
Turkey

2. Name of team captain and e-mail
Halil Kardicali, e-mail: halil.kardicali@gmail.com

3. Name of spokesperson and e-mail (may be left blank if captain is the one speaking for the team)

4. Preferred match duration:
b) 75 minutes

5. Preferred number of days for ESC (singles) play and preferred dates:
a) one day (6th Aug)

6. Preferred number of days for ETC (teams) play and preferred dates:
a) two days (4th and 5th)

7. Preferred number of matches to be played per day for ETC:
b) 4 matches

8. What should be the tournament style:
b) a cut for top teams at the end of 6 (an example in case of total 8 matches played) rounds of swiss as per classic FFG tournaments

9. Points system used in a single game:
a) classic FFG system (5 for major win, 3 for minor win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss)

10. Should the points cap be introduced (so no team could get 0 or maximum points from a single match)?
b) no

11. If answer on question 10. was yes, should cap be introduced:
n/a
Halil Kardicali
X-Wing ETC Team Turkey 2016 - Captain
X-Wing ETC 2016 Game Master

jagosaja
Posts: 82
Joined: Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:01 am

Re: Nations vote for the ruleset - voting ended

Postby jagosaja » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:08 pm

Eight nations have participated in the vote. There were no ties, so the results of the vote are:


4. Preferred match duration:
b) 75 minutes

5. Preferred number of days for ESC (singles) play and preferred dates:
a) one day - 5th of August

6. Preferred number of days for ETC (teams) play and preferred dates:
a) two days - 6th & 7th of August

7. Preferred number of matches to be played per day for ETC:
b) 5 matches

8. What should be the tournament style:
a) straight swiss style tournament to the end

9. Points system used in a single game:
a) classic FFG system (5 for major win, 3 for minor win, 1 for draw, 0 for loss)

10. Should the points cap be introduced (so no team could get 0 or maximum points from a single match)?
a) yes

11. If answer on question 10. was yes, should cap be introduced:
b) At every match


Now we know the date when the tournament will be held, and other details. All the rules mentioned by Salnihra which have not been overriden by the vote still stand.
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2013 - Vampire Counts
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2014 - Vampire Counts
WFB ETC Team Serbia 2015 - Beastmen
X-Wing ETC 2016 member of Rules Committee
X-Wing ETC Team Serbia 2016 - Captain
X-Wing ETC Team Serbia 2017 - Captain


Return to “X-Wing (side event)- European Team Championships”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest