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Re: 2018 Points Discussion

Postby M1le » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:49 am

graham wrote:Right, let's get this moving again. We now know it is v4 and EW. Earlier in this thread there has been support for points from 1500 to 1650.

I suggest that we vote on four options: 1500, 1550, 1600, 1650. Each team to have a first and second preference vote.

Would that be a good way forward?


+1. Don't complicate things, it's just a point vote and it's the same for everybody and IMO it eases the work of the commitee as they know the exact point level and what they should take care of. The sooner the points are determined the sooner the flaws are shown that can be corrected in a timely manner.
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Re: 2018 Points Discussion

Postby graham » Fri Sep 08, 2017 2:47 pm

Posted in error - ignore this.
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Re: 2018 Points Discussion

Postby pizzaguardian » Fri Sep 08, 2017 9:46 pm

Ok, birds told me you wanted a vote again.

Just a points vote or what? Maybe we can add a vote about the comittee thing i had been hearing about?
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Re: 2018 Points Discussion

Postby TheTonyDavis » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:20 pm

We could easily do a combined. Do we want a committee or not? Who do we want on the committe? And how many points. Btw these votes don't have to be done by secret ballot and votes can easily be cast by posting in the relevant new thread. Saves you from having to use your PM inbox that way!
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Re: 2018 Points Discussion

Postby Frogdog » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:50 am

TheTonyDavis wrote:We could easily do a combined. Do we want a committee or not? Who do we want on the committe? And how many points. Btw these votes don't have to be done by secret ballot and votes can easily be cast by posting in the relevant new thread. Saves you from having to use your PM inbox that way!


Let's have a vote on whether a vote should be done by secret ballot or open forum!?!
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Re: 2018 Points Discussion

Postby graham » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:40 am

pizza - It would be good to do the vote to set up the committee now. I have posted the proposal that we should vote on.

Tony - If you vote on the membership at the same time, then you are limiting the candidates to those who have already flagged interest. If that is not a problem, I'm happy with it because it will be the same informal group that is already working (people from Canada, England, France, Greece, Poland and Slovenia).

I had suggested voting on points now but some people prefer to wait for the output of the committee. I don't feel strongly about it either way.
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Re: 2018 Points Discussion

Postby Dirkhrod » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:02 am

We support voting on points as quickly as possible, I do not think that procrastinating on this can make anything better. Same thing with the commitee. There is a lot of uncertainty in the community and addressing at least some of the issues as soon as possible would "steady the boat". People are becoming disaffected with the lack of certainty, we need to settle the basics as soon as possible, in my opinion. The most important thing is actually not points, but list restrictions (if we stick to 2/2/2 and the country limitations per team) Once we know this, people can at least start thinking what they could play and plan purchases. Then comes points and attacker / defender issues, these also need to be taken care of asap. The rest can be done once we know how we stand and we have a stable framework.
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Re: 2018 Points Discussion

Postby TheTonyDavis » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:39 pm

graham wrote:Tony - If you vote on the membership at the same time, then you are limiting the candidates to those who have already flagged interest. If that is not a problem, I'm happy with it because it will be the same informal group that is already working (people from Canada, England, France, Greece, Poland and Slovenia).


I find this interesting given that two expressed interest from team USA and weren't included in this informal group.
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Re: 2018 Points Discussion

Postby graham » Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:56 am

Tony - That is exactly why I flagged it to you.

See the "v4 and ETC 2018 thread" for a fuller reply. (I won't say more here because this is the points thread.)
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