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Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Arkon » Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:04 am

Hi guys,

when is the best time to get together to discuss the setting for ETC 2018 (if there will be any FoW ETC to come)?

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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby TheTonyDavis » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:39 am

Thursday night? Discuss the future and then get our pairings done for the first round right after we are done?
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby TheMarko » Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:11 am

Don't know if everyone will be there on Thursday . . . Safer to do it on Friday/Saturday right after the games and a bit before everything else . . .
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Angelfred » Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:12 am

Better do it Friday night or Thursday night or Sunday night to get all the FoW Captains and/or Spokepersons.
For instance, our Captain won't be available on Thursday night.
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Jonny65 » Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:05 am

I think Friday or Saturday night after the 2nd game is best. Some folk might not be there yet on Thursday, and some might be rushing home on Sunday.
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Mongol » Fri Jul 28, 2017 12:16 pm

On behalf of Team Russia captain:
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Robin Spence » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:10 pm

Is this not a meeting that might be done better as a discussion post here rather than everybody trying to talk whilst hot, knackered, mentally drained and not even knowing if they themselves or there teams will be attending next year. If your asking if it should be V4 and what points and period then surely it would be better to have a vote and sensible discussion here which will obviously take some time ?
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Arkon » Fri Jul 28, 2017 2:41 pm

Hi Robin,

it was stated in some earlier post that ist would be good to have a talk face to face to exchange arguments and ideas at the ETC.

I am fine with that as you have all the captains around, not just the few that are at this forum normaly. AND I dont think we can wait with some decisions till players have made up their mind if they want to attend, i would assume our decissions will influence people to take part or stay away.

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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Yegr » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:49 pm

Saturday - directly after the 2nd game is probably best. We could start 17:10. Will probably finish before 18:00 still good enough to get refreshed and go out for dinner at a reasonable time,
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby sovietpride » Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:08 am

+1.
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Angelfred » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:51 pm

+1 with yegr
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Tenente Paco » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:11 pm

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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Dave A » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:57 pm

I have been in communication with Battlefront (I do proofreading for them - look in the V4 and Team Yankee books fromIron Maiden onwards) to get some information on the release schedule of the V4 lists for release to the captain's meeting. I would like to attend the captains meeting to present that information. I'd then leave if you wish, or could stay if that is OK? I'm happy for there to be a vote at the meeting that ejects me immediately if that is the wish of the captains (hopefully after I've presented the information).

I'm currently seeking permission to email the information out before the meeting if I can. They haven't said I can't do that, but I won't unless I have their permission to.
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby olympia » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:29 pm

Dave A wrote:I have been in communication with Battlefront (I do proofreading for them - look in the V4 and Team Yankee books fromIron Maiden onwards) to get some information on the release schedule of the V4 lists for release to the captain's meeting. I would like to attend the captains meeting to present that information. I'd then leave if you wish, or could stay if that is OK? I'm happy for there to be a vote at the meeting that ejects me immediately if that is the wish of the captains (hopefully after I've presented the information).

I'm currently seeking permission to email the information out before the meeting if I can. They haven't said I can't do that, but I won't unless I have their permission to.

I am not a captain but that is great news (depending on what the info is).
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Mongol » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:03 am

olympia wrote:I am not a captain but that is great news (depending on what the info is).

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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Doktor Helge » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:49 pm

Time: + 1

Dave A: + 1
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Oskariho » Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:59 am

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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby M1le » Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:01 am

Can you please post the main points which were made during the Captains meeting for the teams which didn't attend this years ETC? Thank you! :wink:
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Jonny65 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:46 am

The captains had a straw poll, and an overwhelming majority were in favour of playing EW 4th edition at Zagreb 2018. I think about 20 captains wanted 4th ed and about 16 preferred EW. Unless there's a sudden change of heart I expect this is what we'll be playing next year.
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Tito » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:34 pm

Jonny65 wrote:The captains had a straw poll, and an overwhelming majority were in favour of playing EW 4th edition at Zagreb 2018. I think about 20 captains wanted 4th ed and about 16 preferred EW. Unless there's a sudden change of heart I expect this is what we'll be playing next year.

So probably EW 4th edition. It sounds good for me.

I can see only two possibility: MW or EW.
The first has the advantage of a new balancing but will probably have 4 armies with no soviet and forces us to play mid war for 2 years (MW should be completed at all for ETC 2019, would be silly not using it).
The second has not a great balancing with old armies but allow us to become familiar with V4 thanks to some old heritage of V4 (T-M-I, if we want) and prepare us for a really interesting ETC 2019 with a mature MW.

Waiting for the captains' response.
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby sovietpride » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:50 am

Actually a third of the captains voted in favour of V3, and many of the present havent studied oir played the EW/LW conversion to V4, so they are unaware of the huge balancing issues involved. So the straw pool results could change.

It was agreed a formal internet vote to be held, so that needs to be put forward before any further planning gets ahead.

Fortunetly the BF delegate said that they will listen to the ETC community feedback, so we should send them constructive criticism so as they introduce important changes into the EW/LW conversion book if we want to have a smooth ETC next year.
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby stevec » Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:00 pm

I don't think there was 1/3 wanted v3, but there was a good majority for v4.

We just need to be positive hope bf make the changes if not then we must.

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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Dave A » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:11 pm

I had permission to release certain information at the captains meeting, but that was done by a BF employee in the end - Matt Sulley (not sure of the surname).

I haven't put that information up here because it is a public forum and I don't have permission to release the information I was given publically. The information I had was only about the numbers and nationalitioes of the lists that are likely to be released over the next year.

My personal view was and remains that there are probably not enough lists out now for MW next year - many teams will be starting planning now. By this time next year we should have several more books which makes planning for a MW V4 in 2019 viable in August 2018.

Doing EW next year and MW in 2019 also keeps the rotation.
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Angelfred » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:32 pm

stevec wrote:I don't think there was 1/3 wanted v3, but there was a good majority for v4.

We just need to be positive hope bf make the changes if not then we must.


If I recall correctly, 5 cap' were for V3 and 14 were for V4.
1 was for LW, none was for MW, 18 for EW.

Apparently, even if all Captains were warned about this meeting, it was not possible to call this "pool" a vote and there need to be a formal vote on the forum.

So... when ?
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Dave A » Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:08 pm

Hi Fred

The point that was made at the meeting is that all votes by the ETC Charter have to be on the forum. Some nations might have voting rights but not be at the event.
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby Angelfred » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:31 am

@Dave : yep, that's what I understood as well.
So my question is basically when can we have this vote being set up so we are fixed on what will be plaid in Zagreb for ETC 2018 FoW :)
The sooner we know, the sooner we can check within our communities who want to/can come.
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby TheMarko » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:48 am

Angelfred wrote:So my question is basically when can we have this vote being set up so we are fixed on what will be plaid in Zagreb for ETC 2018 FoW :)
The sooner we know, the sooner we can check within our communities who want to/can come.


Poke the chairmen for that. Our dedicated chairman this year is 40k player, and I don't think he follows this part of forum closely. May need a bit of push to start the voting. In the meantime, You may start the thread for discussion . . .
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Re: Captains Meeting during ETC

Postby pizzaguardian » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:32 pm

TheMarko wrote:
Angelfred wrote:So my question is basically when can we have this vote being set up so we are fixed on what will be plaid in Zagreb for ETC 2018 FoW :)
The sooner we know, the sooner we can check within our communities who want to/can come.


Poke the chairmen for that. Our dedicated chairman this year is 40k player, and I don't think he follows this part of forum closely. May need a bit of push to start the voting. In the meantime, You may start the thread for discussion . . .


Oh, trust me i do. And lets check, at this point i am the chairman of 40k, t9a and fow. So i got the trifecta, which is nice.
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