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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby graham » Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:35 pm

Fair enough, we'll have to wait for some responsible adults to appear. :)
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby DaveM » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:12 pm

graham wrote:Fair enough, we'll have to wait for some responsible adults to appear. :)


Good luck with that.... :D
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Robin Spence » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:28 pm

Judging by the amount of presumably unintentional cock ups I suggest no penalty points at all. Suggest the Chairman makes final decision on list interpretations as quickly as possible. We are after all only playing toy soldiers. Let's move on.
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby DaveM » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:44 pm

What??? Do you mean to disappoint those nice Finnish lads who have volunteered to take a penalty point?? :D

Seriously, I agree, there has been no intent by anyone. Fix the lists, publish the final versions, no penalties and look forward to Salamanca!
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Robin Spence » Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:56 pm

Yep no penalties. We all know the Germans always win penalty shoot outs anyway.
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby sovietpride » Sun Jul 09, 2017 5:10 pm

Oskariho wrote:
Arkon wrote:But to be honest, changing AT 7 to AT 10 after lists have been published seems a major change to me. And there is no "need" to do so?


Indeed, there isn't a need technically. It was purely a mistake I made, though, since the player actually sent me the list containing the AT 10 Valentines. His list was missing his name (and had 10 points to spare), so I remade it and accidentally didn't tick the change them to Valentine VIIIs (I can invite anyone who really doubts to our teams facebook group to prove it).

That said, if there are to be penalties (I'm still a bit unclear on that), all teams should be treated equally so we should also receive one.


Its an obvious unintended mistake (not worst than many others that have been fixed without penalty) let them change it, better for everyone :)
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby DaveM » Sun Jul 09, 2017 8:46 pm

I've just been informed by someone who is not registered on this forum there may be a minor issue with Team Australia.
Note this is not something I have spotted!:-)

"Paul Collins team Aus needs to change the Motor Plt from 11th AD to 7th AD , no pts change"

Please confirm if this is a valid change.
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby pizzaguardian » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:59 am

Austria lists are getting updated with names.

And so is the french Mec1 list.
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Angelfred » Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:29 pm

pizzaguardian wrote:
And so is the french Mec1 list.


Yes sir !
Although we were not officially asked to change and although we still don't understand (despite the explanations) why we can't have Quebec-trees-lovers 25pdr, there is no room for doubt : we change it so there won't be any problem in the ETC.

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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby pizzaguardian » Mon Jul 10, 2017 2:38 pm

Austria, Australia, Denmark, England, Finland, Germany, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, New Zealand, Northern Ireland, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Scotland, Serbia, South Africa, Spain, Switzerland and United Nations
Canada - needs extra half tracks in the Towed TD unit as you must have 1 x 1/2 track per gun, points cost would be affected in towed td
Finland - swap Valentine IIs for Valentine VIIIs in the forward detachment list

France - can't take Canadian 25pdrs I. Armoured rifle company

Ireland - forward detachment has mixed tanks
Ireland- Brazil list fix happening, correction posted

Russia - forward detachment set has mixed tanks

United States - forward detachment has mixed tanks...fix happening, correction posted

Wales - contacted already, Mark has already posted a correction the arty wrong selection box was chosen for arty in his Churchill list.


Another question for you guys, Would it be ok to have lists printed with only first page for you guys, or is printing the whole 3 pages per player necessary?
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Frogdog » Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:10 pm

Realistically, you'd need all pages of the list.
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby DaveM » Mon Jul 10, 2017 5:01 pm

Scotland Companie Blindee, I think this is in FOW Lists format. Can this please be put in "Forces" format?
Sorry Richard!;-p
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby TheTonyDavis » Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:44 pm

I think the Orga only needs to provide the first page of everyone's lists. Everyone should already be bringing copies of their lists to provide to their opponent like every other tournament you ever go to anyways. Isn't that in the rules pack to do that too? Basically just need the lists printed to ensure people didn't switch at the last minute I guess. We rarely used the printed list packet anyways so don't see a real need for them. The far more pressing need is cards to do the pairing process and best painted vote cards!
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Ostroc » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:17 pm

There is a limit to how much we can expect them to publish

At one page that's still 160 pages at three or more it will be over 500.

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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby pizzaguardian » Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:23 pm

There will be a combined list file pdf with it being divided to teams, so you guys can just download that to your phones/tablets as well. (the detailed versions).
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby redvark » Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:04 pm

DaveM wrote:Scotland Companie Blindee, I think this is in FOW Lists format. Can this please be put in "Forces" format?
Sorry Richard!;-p


Not as sorry as you'll be when I leave you in Belchite !

It can't I'm afraid, it's not available on Forces only on blogspot (it's not an issue with me being tight !) that's why we attached the PDF with our lists
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Frogdog » Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:56 pm

Ireland lists submitted (hopefully correctly)!
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Trick08 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:34 pm

Angelfred wrote:
pizzaguardian wrote:
And so is the french Mec1 list.


Yes sir !
Although we were not officially asked to change and although we still don't understand (despite the explanations) why we can't have Quebec-trees-lovers 25pdr, there is no room for doubt : we change it so there won't be any problem in the ETC.

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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Trick08 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:48 pm

TheTonyDavis wrote:I think the Orga only needs to provide the first page of everyone's lists. Everyone should already be bringing copies of their lists to provide to their opponent like every other tournament you ever go to anyways. Isn't that in the rules pack to do that too? Basically just need the lists printed to ensure people didn't switch at the last minute I guess. We rarely used the printed list packet anyways so don't see a real need for them. The far more pressing need is cards to do the pairing process and best painted vote cards!

So long as team Poland don't drive their .50cal AT gun transports around shooting up everything without passengers, which on Forces does not say they are passenger fired but, luckily, this is correct in the arsenal entry on page 2 then I am fine with just 1 page:-) Not picking on team Poland BTW just noticed how awesome 36 x .50s shots could be unlimbered:-)

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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Trick08 » Mon Jul 10, 2017 10:49 pm

DaveM wrote:I've just been informed by someone who is not registered on this forum there may be a minor issue with Team Australia.
Note this is not something I have spotted!:-)

"Paul Collins team Aus needs to change the Motor Plt from 11th AD to 7th AD , no pts change"

Please confirm if this is a valid change.

Will check it out:-)

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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby TheTonyDavis » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:08 am

Trick08 wrote:
TheTonyDavis wrote:I think the Orga only needs to provide the first page of everyone's lists. Everyone should already be bringing copies of their lists to provide to their opponent like every other tournament you ever go to anyways. Isn't that in the rules pack to do that too? Basically just need the lists printed to ensure people didn't switch at the last minute I guess. We rarely used the printed list packet anyways so don't see a real need for them. The far more pressing need is cards to do the pairing process and best painted vote cards!

So long as team Poland don't drive their .50cal AT gun transports around shooting up everything without passengers, which on Forces does not say they are passenger fired but, luckily, this is correct in the arsenal entry on page 2 then I am fine with just 1 page:-) Not picking on team Poland BTW just noticed how awesome 36 x .50s shots could be unlimbered:-)

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Someone has been getting in too many V4 games I see. While still in V3 only I am not concerned about this as their transports can't stay on the board unlimbered anyway :)
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Trick08 » Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:12 am

TheTonyDavis wrote:
Trick08 wrote:
TheTonyDavis wrote:I think the Orga only needs to provide the first page of everyone's lists. Everyone should already be bringing copies of their lists to provide to their opponent like every other tournament you ever go to anyways. Isn't that in the rules pack to do that too? Basically just need the lists printed to ensure people didn't switch at the last minute I guess. We rarely used the printed list packet anyways so don't see a real need for them. The far more pressing need is cards to do the pairing process and best painted vote cards!

So long as team Poland don't drive their .50cal AT gun transports around shooting up everything without passengers, which on Forces does not say they are passenger fired but, luckily, this is correct in the arsenal entry on page 2 then I am fine with just 1 page:-) Not picking on team Poland BTW just noticed how awesome 36 x .50s shots could be unlimbered:-)

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Someone has been getting in too many V4 games I see. While still in V3 only I am not concerned about this as their transports can't stay on the board unlimbered anyway :)

Yes it was my great fear in play testing that I would begin to cross over the rules:-)

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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby sovietpride » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:08 am

Im still unable to see the fixed Irish lists.
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Frogdog » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:34 am

sovietpride wrote:Im still unable to see the fixed Irish lists.


We emailed the lists before the deadline and posted here once we did. Maybe pizzaguardian hasn't put them up yet.
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Floody2 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:53 am

sovietpride wrote:Im still unable to see the fixed Irish lists.

I'm still unable to see the fixed Spainish lists.
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby pizzaguardian » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:51 am

All the ones are updated lists, the ireland list i got has matilda II 's and valentine Vııı's, is that incorrect?

I haven't gotten to compiling them yet, hoping to do so tonight.
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Postby Frogdog » Wed Jul 12, 2017 1:16 pm

I believe that to be correct, yes.
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby pizzaguardian » Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:51 pm

Anyhow and anyway and anywhat,

Here is the combined list document. I don't think(hope) i made a mistake, but let me know if there are any.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BywUe ... EFLUzg2MFU
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby pizzaguardian » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:36 pm

And here is the army list document which will be printed for you guys (since 500 pages would be too much to print, this version just includes the list and not the profiles.)


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BywUe ... UVvWWRnVDg
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Re: ETC FoW 2017 Lists

Postby Trick08 » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:27 am

pizzaguardian wrote:And here is the army list document which will be printed for you guys (since 500 pages would be too much to print, this version just includes the list and not the profiles.)


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BywUe ... UVvWWRnVDg

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