I thought I read on a forum somewhere that two untis of savage orc boar boyz could have magical standards as long as one unit was upgraded to big 'uns. Could someone please confirm or deny this because I can't find any reference to allow it.

Cheers,

Staks

[edit: Disregard my first answer. ]

I think it's based on the presumption that Big'uns are different kind of unit than Savage Boar Boyz and thus don't count towards the limit of only one SOBB unit with magic banner per army.

Personally I'd say it sounds loop-holeish and I wouldn't do that. Big 'uns are listed as upgrade to a unit, so for me it is still the same type of unit, just upgraded.

Big 'uns on foot are allowed to carry magic standard of their own, but that rule isn't there for Boar Boyz Big 'Uns. Perhaps this is the reason for the mix-up.

I would say not.

SOBBs already have the ability to take a magic banner for one unit in the army. Unlike vanilla orc boyz, the biguns upgrade does not grant any further access to magic banners.

If you wanted to get rules lawyerish about it and suggest they are no longer SOBBs, they would technically lose the right to a banner completely, as (as stated above) biguns does not explicitly state they can have one. This however is just silly. They are clearly an upgrade to the unit and nowhere does it say this overrides any other rules they have.

So only one magic banner for you young man.

I would say so, Big'Uns can have a Magic Banner and SOBB can have a Magic Banner... Simple if you ask me... Or are you now saying that because it only says Big'Uns can have a magic banner at normal Orc Boyz that Savage Orc Big'Uns cant have one??

It is a different unit, they have different stats, you can have only 1 of them and they have a different unit name (ie Savage Orc Big'Uns instead of Savage Orcs)...

Different units, both can have a Magic Banner imo...

Christiaan

Can you please share with the class where it says all biguns can have a magic banner?

The simple answer is that it does not.

It says SOBBs can have one for a single unit. To qualify for the magic banner, the biguns are relying on the fact that they are SOBBs. Without this status as SOBBs, they are not entitled to anything. So, by your argument that they are seperate units, biguns on boars cannot have magic banners. It's your logic that leads us to this, not mine.

But then the truth of the matter is that they are SOBBs, and therefore fall under the limit of one per army for magic banners. It's a unit upgrade. They are not in any way listed as a seperate entry in the army list.

Increased stats aside, they are still the same unit type. Or is a unit champion no longer of the troop type defined by the rest of his unit (for whatever difference this may make)?

So, in conclusion, savage orcs boar boyz can only have on magic banner, whether they take the biguns upgrade or not.