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2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby pizzaguardian » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:40 pm

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BywUe ... 2wtRUZ2RUU

Here you go, post anything you have here.

EDIT: All corrections should be made before June 11th TUESDAY 23:59 CEST. After that date the file will go printing, and any remaining errors can only be corrected in the digital file.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Vojvoda (Duke) Mladen » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:50 pm

Serbian HE should have Commander instead of Prince for BSB choice.

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby theoden » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:51 pm

Dear Captains,

We assumed, from the previous versions, the vampire general had to take evocation by default, and with that habit, we didn't write his chosen lore. This is an oversight from us. Our vampire lord is level 1 evocation wizard.

We apologise for our oversight, but this clearly wasn't meant to gain unfair advantage, but an obvious oversight, as he is only a level 1 wizard.

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Nosfi » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:53 pm

Hi All!

Team Hungary made a little mistake. A wrong list copied at least - we are at hurry becuse of deadline. Can we make two obviously, and FREE Change?
In the OG list, the general is Cave goblin, not common goblin (exatly the same point), and the goblin hero on wolf had shield (it is a free chocie for a goblin little hero). I write it to Isik as soon as we realize, and he says that will be your kinldy decision.

If it help in the decision, we bring a lot of Pálinka...:)

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Vojvoda (Duke) Mladen » Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:57 pm

Nosfi wrote: a lot of Pálinka...:)


And how much is that? You must be more precise in this matter. :D

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Chris Legg » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:28 pm

Nosfi wrote:Hi All!

Team Hungary made a little mistake. A wrong list copied at least - we are at hurry becuse of deadline. Can we make two obviously, and FREE Change?
In the OG list, the general is Cave goblin, not common goblin (exatly the same point), and the goblin hero on wolf had shield (it is a free chocie for a goblin little hero). I write it to Isik as soon as we realize, and he says that will be your kinldy decision.

If it help in the decision, we bring a lot of Pálinka...:)

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby ukrocky » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:31 pm

I'll have some Palinka and I don't mind the list changes :wink:
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby ChiHammer » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:53 pm

Hello Mr. Guardian of the Pizza. So my bsb I made the mistake (and have proof) that had the double skull splitter. If you look at his cost (which is correct) is 194 pts. He should be a Forest Goblin Chief With shield, Pan's Protection, Bow, and Warbanner for 194 pts. Other minor mistakes is the goblin shaman of pyromancy is of "forest goblin" race (changes nothing point wise, he was just missing which race he was), and the cave goblin unit is 420 pts not 360 (again it changes nothing as the list is a legal 4500 pts)

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Frederick » Tue Jul 04, 2017 10:02 pm

it´s a pain that many teams did not even try at all to get the lists into the right format. i´m the last one to support being restrictive, but if i would have say i´d simply take a call that all teams that do not offer their lists in a proper format within 24h suffer a hefty penalty ...

i takes like 2 minutes per list to get it right and if every player would do it for his own list nobody can say it is too much work! expecting some already really hard working volunterr-chairmen will fix it for you lazy fools is bullsh%t and a massive lack of respect.

Get your stuff sorted! (i can tell you by heart what a pain it is to get such an amount of lists in a proper format, so i felt like i have to state this here, since i was really shocked and pissed when i had a look at the lists!)

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Nosfi » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:13 pm

Web have our list in the right format too (made this morning, and send it this morning, but not updated).
So here it is.

Team Hungary

Balázs “Nosfi” Pásztor, 4500 Pts - Undying Dynasties Army

1 Death Cult Hierarch, Hierophant; The Evocation; 4 Learned Spells Book of the Dead 480
1 Pharaoh General; Great Weapon; Great Aspen Bow; Heavy Armour; Crown of the Pharaohs, Talisman of Supreme Shielding. 564
1 Tomb Architect, Paired Weapons, Bronze Breastplate, Charm of Cursed Iron 231
1 Tomb Harbringer Aspen Bow; Heavy Armour;Fencer's Swords, Dragonscale Helm Talisman of Shielding 305
26 Skeleton Archers, Champion, 332.0
24 Skeleton Archers 288
6 Skeleton Chariots, Standard 520
10 Shabtis, champion, standard, paired wepon, 878.0
29 Nercopolis Guard, Halbred, Champion, Standard,Icon of Relentless Company 726
1 Sand Scorpion 170

Total Army Cost: 4494

Atilla “Archón” Délczeg 4500 Pts - Warriors of the Dark Gods Army
1 Chaos Harbinger of Lust: Mark of Dark Gods (Lust); Shield; Battle Standard; Steed of Lust
Flaming Lance, Dragonscale Helm, Banner of Temptation, Talisman of Shielding 490
1 Daemon Prince of Pestilence: General; Mark of Dark Gods (Pestilence); Wizard Master; 4 Learned Spells; The Shamanism, Waste Hardened Skin, Necrotic Miasma, Hardened Shield Sceptre of Power, Razor Blade, Lucky Charm 1010
18 Wasteland Warriors of Pestilence: Mark of Dark Gods (Pestilence); Shield; Veteran Magic Standard, Banner of Filth 606
8 Barbarian Horseman of Lust: Mark of Dark Gods (Lust); Light Lance; Light Armour; Shield; Standard;300
1 Chimera 425
4 Crusher Knights of Wrath: Mark of Dark Gods (Wrath); Lance; Standard; Gleaming Icon 656
4 Dragon Centaurs of True Chaos: Mark of Dark Gods (True Chaos); Great Weapon; Champion 646
1 Battle Shrine (Priest) of Wrath: Mark of Dark Gods (Wrath) 260
5 Warhounds 100
Models in Army: 42

Total Army Cost: 4493

Balázs “Nazogo” Bornemissza 4500 Pts - Sylvan Elves Army
1 Druid Master, The Druidism; 4 Learned Spells, Bow of Wyscan, Mist Walker's Mirror, Sceptre of Power 580
1 Forest Prince: General; Longbow; Elven Cloak; Light Armour; Shield; Fey Arrows: Perforating Tips; Elven horse, Kindred - Wild Hunter; Frenzy, Helm of the Wild Hunt, Hail Shot, Flaming Lance, Talisman of Greater Shielding, 598
7 Pathfinders 310
6 Wild Huntsmen, Champion, Standard, Shield, Sylvian lance 422
6 Wild Huntsmen, Champion, Shield, Sylvian lance 402
10 Dryad Skirmishers: skirmish, 218
10 Sylvan Archers, Veteran Magic Standard; Gleming Icon 290
10 Sylvan Archers 260
10 Sylvan Archers 260
5 Heath Riders Sylvan Lance; Longbow; Ambush;200
1 Treefather 480
1 Treefather 480

Total Army Cost: 4500.0

David “Davidor” de los Ángeles: 4500pts- Infernal Dwarfs
1 Taurhuk Subjugator Infernal Armour; Shield; Battle Standard, Bluffer's Helm, Flaming Lance, 490
1 Prophet Master General; Wizard Master; 4 Learned Spells; The Alchemy; Infernal Armour
Hardened Shield, Sceptre of Power, Charm of Cursed Iron, Talisman of Shielding, 530
20 Hobgoblins: Bow; Light Armour; Shield; Standard 210
5 Taurukh Anointed Light Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield, Champion 710
1 Kadim Titan 600
10 TaurukhLight Lance; Heavy Armour; Shield; Standard, Gleaming Icon 390
1 Infernal Engine Shrapel Guns; Daemonic Infusion 480
5 Hobgoblin Wolf Riders, Bow; Light Lance; Light Armour; Shield 160
40 Infernal Warriors Blunderbuss; Heavy Armour; Shield; Veteran Magic Standard; Musician, Champion, Banner of Speed 780
20 Hobgoblins Bow; Light Armour 150

Total Army Cost: 4500.0

*Team Hungary Antonio "Montxo" Santamaria Barcina 4500 Pts - Vampire Covenant Army - Dragon Brotherhood.
1xMidnight Aristocracy, General, The Dead Arise, Vampire Count, Brotherhood of the Dragon, Crimson Rage, Wizard Master, 2 Spells Occultism, Plate Armour, Shield, Skeletal Steed, Sceptre of power, Blade of Red Thirst, Talisman of supreme shielding -935
1xMidnight Aristocracy, BSB, Vampire Courtier, Brotherhood of the Dragon, Perfect Warrior, Wizard Apprentice; 2 Learned Spells; The Occultism, Plate Armour, Skeletal Steed, Talisman of Greater Shielding, Divine Icon - 570
40xGhouls -670
8xDire Wolves -116
8xDire Wolves -116
5xVampire Knights, Blood Ties (Dragon Brotherh.), Champion -570
6xVampire Knights, Blood Ties (Dragon Brotherh.), Champion, Standard, Black Standard of Zagvozd -780
5xSpectral Hunters -280
1xDark Coach, Extended Chasis -460
Total Army Cost: 4497.0


Álex “Portador de Tormento” Serrano 4500 Pts - The Vermin Swarm Army
1 Vermin Daemon- Deceiver, ; General; 4 Learned Spells; Wizard Master; The Occultism; 945
1 Chief: Heavy Armour; Ratlock Pistol; Battle Standard, Hardened Shield, Dragonfire Gem 207
20 Rats-at-Arms, Champion, Shield, 180
20 Rats-at-Arms, Champion, Shield, 180
20 Plague Brotherhood, Champion, Standard, Musician 290
15 Plague Brotherhood, Champion
15 Vermin Guard Veteran Magic Standard, Champion, The Lightning Rod 310
12 Plague Disciples 270
12 Plague Disciples 270
12 Plague Disciples 270
12 Plague Disciples 270
8 Grenadiers 180
8 Grenadiers 180
6 Gutter Blades Paired Weapons; Throwing Weapons; Scout & Ambush 214
6 Gutter Blades Paired Weapons; Throwing Weapons; Scout & Ambush 214
1 Plague Catapult 170
1 Plague Catapult 170

Total Army Cost: 4500.0

Eck “Chris” Kristóf 4500 Pts - Ogre Khans Army
1 Shaman Master General; Rottenjaw; Wizard Master; 4 Learned Spells; The Shamanism;
Axe-Breaker Gauntlet, Crown of Autocracy, Talisman of Shielding, Sceptre of Power 670
1 Khan, Trolleater; Brace of Ogre Pistols; Heavy Armour; Battle Standard; Scrapling Lookout, Heart-Ripper, Yeti Furs 440
8 Sabretooth Tigers 290
10 Bruisers Great Weapon; Heavy Armour; Scrapling Lookout; Veteran Magic Standard;
Musician, Championn Banner of Speed, 891
1 Rock Aurochs Ogre Crossbow 480
1 Rock Aurochs, Ogre Crossbow 480
4 Tusker Cavalry Great Weapon; Heavy Armour; Standard, Dragonskin Banner 744
1 Kin-Eater 200
4 Yetis 300
Total Army Cost: 4495

Juan Jesus “Torrente” Cortez 4500 Pts - Orcs & Goblins Army
1 Cave Goblin Chief: Bow; Light Armour; Shield; Battle Standard 124
1 Forest Goblin Witch Doctor Master Forest Goblin Big Shaman; 4 Learned Spells; The Pyromancy, Book of Arcane Power 460
1 Goblin Chief Wolf, Lance; Light Armour, Shield, Dragonscale Helm, Pan ofProtection Pinchin' 192
1 Cave Goblin King General; Goblin King; Green Tide; Bow; Heavy Armour, Crown of Autocracy, Crown of the Cavern King. 284
38 Cave Goblins Bows; Musician; 2x Mad Git 424
38 Cave Goblins Bows; Musician; 2x Mad Git 424
5 Feral Orc Boar Riders, Light lance 140
5 Feral Orc Boar Riders, Light lance 140
3 Grotlings 80
3 Grotlings 80
8 Trolls 596
8 Trolls 596
1 Gargantula 480
1 Gargantula 480

Total Army Cost: 4500.0

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby eggsPR » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:04 am

Shiny Metals, Russian SA is illegal.

Totems (jaguar) are all or nothing with all saurus warrior units. Can't have one big unit without totem with smaller one with a totem.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby spellviewer » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:30 am

Dunno why ArmyBuilder shows all ok :/ sorry this is correct version, just swap Jaguar Totem on Standart:

Anton "Shinymetallass" Saturin - Saurian Ancients
Firstborn Warlord, General; Glitering Cuirass; Fleshrender; Sprout of Rebirth; Raptor – 540
Skink Captain, BSB, Blowpipe; Light Armour; Lucky Shield; Razor Blade; Starfall Shard; Taurosaur with Godly Engine – 750
Skink Priest; Wizard Apprentice; 3 Learned Spells; The Druidism; Jade Staff; Black Cube – 310
31x Saurian Warriors; No Totem Animal; FCG; War Standard – 701
10x Saurian Jaguar Warriors; Standart; Musician – 210
7x Caimans; Halberd; M; C – 610
1x Spearback – 120
1x Spearback – 120
9x Skink Hunters; Blowpipe; Vanguard – 186
8x Skink Hunters; Blowpipe; Vanguard – 172
Stygiosaur – 330
Taurosaur – 450
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Zaanash » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:47 am

Frederick wrote:it´s a pain that many teams did not even try at all to get the lists into the right format. i´m the last one to support being restrictive, but if i would have say i´d simply take a call that all teams that do not offer their lists in a proper format within 24h suffer a hefty penalty ...

i takes like 2 minutes per list to get it right and if every player would do it for his own list nobody can say it is too much work! expecting some already really hard working volunterr-chairmen will fix it for you lazy fools is bullsh%t and a massive lack of respect.

Get your stuff sorted! (i can tell you by heart what a pain it is to get such an amount of lists in a proper format, so i felt like i have to state this here, since i was really shocked and pissed when i had a look at the lists!)

Cheers
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I agree with this, some lists are completely unreadable
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Bazzu » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:33 am

Frederick wrote:it´s a pain that many teams did not even try at all to get the lists into the right format. i´m the last one to support being restrictive, but if i would have say i´d simply take a call that all teams that do not offer their lists in a proper format within 24h suffer a hefty penalty ...

i takes like 2 minutes per list to get it right and if every player would do it for his own list nobody can say it is too much work! expecting some already really hard working volunterr-chairmen will fix it for you lazy fools is bullsh%t and a massive lack of respect.

Get your stuff sorted! (i can tell you by heart what a pain it is to get such an amount of lists in a proper format, so i felt like i have to state this here, since i was really shocked and pissed when i had a look at the lists!)

Cheers
Fred :P



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If no, can you send the proper format paste proper format?
I made a mistake with our daemons list which should have 3 daemonettes instead of 2 upgraded, would that change be allowed? If not what is the penalty to fix it? (I hope it s not allowed i don t agree with our player on this but it s his list not mine)

Also our vampire lord is by default level1 apprentice with forced occultism since he is a blood dragon

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Zaanash » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:43 am

Here is the rules pack: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BywUeE ... hCVFU/view

List format is this one:

Team : [Country]

[ Name ] “ [ Nickname ] ” [ Last Name ] - [ Army ] - [specific Army Organisation]

[ Unit1 ], [General/BSB ], [Marks, Virtues , etc.], [X (amount) Spells], [Mount], [Equipment],
[Magic Equipment], [Wizard Master, Vampiric Bloodlines , Gifts of the Dark Gods , etc.], [Magic
Path] - [Points]

[Amount] [ Unit1 ], [Marks etc.], [Equipment], [M, S, C], [Magic Banner] - [Points]

[ total points ]

For example lists, you can just look at Team Netherlands at the top of the list-pdf
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Bazzu » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:02 am

Zaanash wrote:Here is the rules pack: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BywUeE ... hCVFU/view

List format is this one:

Team : [Country]

[ Name ] “ [ Nickname ] ” [ Last Name ] - [ Army ] - [specific Army Organisation]

[ Unit1 ], [General/BSB ], [Marks, Virtues , etc.], [X (amount) Spells], [Mount], [Equipment],
[Magic Equipment], [Wizard Master, Vampiric Bloodlines , Gifts of the Dark Gods , etc.], [Magic
Path] - [Points]

[Amount] [ Unit1 ], [Marks etc.], [Equipment], [M, S, C], [Magic Banner] - [Points]

[ total points ]

For example lists, you can just look at Team Netherlands at the top of the list-pdf



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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby mike newman » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:31 am

Just as an idle musing (not directed at anyone in particular)

Is there anyway to make sure lists resubmitted because they weren't in the correct format the first time round are not altered
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby pizzaguardian » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:49 am

The document in the link will not be updated. Any updates will be linked seperately. So yeah, thats the snapshot of the list document.

If you mean, the lists themselves being altered during the reformatting, thats on captains council to check.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Snake1311 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:50 am

With your eyes and the above document? :P


+1 for a minor list penalty for some of these submissions. I understand not using the exact same punctuation throughout, or the odd peculiarity in how you list things, but DAYMN some of these are just eyebleed.

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby pizzaguardian » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:51 am

Any penalty to be given outor not for late/wrong format submissions has been reverted to the referees, they will make the judgement.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Conjurer » Wed Jul 05, 2017 11:12 am

Snake1311 wrote:+1 for a minor list penalty for some of these submissions. I understand not using the exact same punctuation throughout, or the odd peculiarity in how you list things, but DAYMN some of these are just eyebleed.

pizzaguardian wrote:Any penalty to be given outor not for late/wrong format submissions has been reverted to the referees, they will make the judgement.

To my mind, the team registration process is quite complex and has many aspects - it could be more simple. System of penalties - for wrong format, late submission, wrongly looked at the judge, penalty for payments - it will not makes games on ETC happy. Sure, that the rules should be followed, but for so minor causes should not be game result penalties. Maybe exists other ways to stimulate guys to follow the rules, except the penalty system?
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Zaanash » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:25 pm

In the end it is a matter of having lists that are completely readable for all participants at the ETC, and not bloated with unnecessary information so that they take up multiple pages. This is important so that we avoid any unfortunate misunderstandings regarding what specific lists actually contain when we do pairings against each other.

I don't think we need to punish people too hard for errors in the roster format, unless they aren't fixed within a reasonable time frame.

Here is a short list of things I found just skimming through the document (I might have missed some)

Argentine:
Remove "CORE", "SPECIAL" and so on at the end of each entry, remove composition at the start of each roster.

Hungary:
Rewrite all of them (fixed already)

Mexico:
OnG, EoS, ID, BH, DH should be fixed

Latvia:
Remove composition section (example below) from each army

Characters 40 %: 1168 > 25,9%
Core 25%: 1126 > 25,05%
Special: 640 > no limit
Powder Keg 25%: 600 > 13,3%
Chained Beasts 30%: 960 > 21,36%

Malta:
Rewrite all of them (a fix is on the way already)

Ukraine:
DH should be rewritten in the correct format.

Some lists also follows the proposed roster format a bit too strict (I guess this is mostly due to the strange example list in the rules pack), and could most likely get rid of all the "*" at the start of each entry. Since they make the lists a bit harder to read. But this is a fix I hope the referees can implement once they have access to the document.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby ChiHammer » Wed Jul 05, 2017 1:10 pm

I apologize my team is not in the correct format. I can fix it no problem, I honestly just didn't know... and I find it harsh that my team would suffer for my mistake.

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby epoepo » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:28 pm

From Argentine Team, we apologize about the format :oops:

Here they are in the correct format with no % and CORE, SPECIAL... things :D


ARGENTINE TEAM, Captain, Jorge Guerrini, "Charming Stelar", Coach, Miguel Angel Lastra

Jorge Guerrini "Charming Stelar", Captain, Higborn Elves
585 Mage, General, Asfad Scholar, Wizard Master, 4 spells, pyromancy , Skull Splitter, Sceptre Power
546 Commander, P.E.B., Master of Canreig Tower, 1 Learned Spell Alchemy and 2Spells Druidism, Great Bow of Elu, Shielding Scroll,Heavy Armour, Great Weapon
270 5 Highborn Lancers, M
575 10 Highborn Lancers, F.C.G., Banner of Discipline
180 10 Citizen Archers,
200 10 Citizen Archers
180 5 Elein Reavers
100 2x 1 Giant Eagle
555 19 Sword Masters, F.C.G., Gleaming icon
615 19 Sword Masters, F.C.G. Rending Banner
412 14 Queen’s Guard, M,
180 1 Sea Guard Reaper
4498 Points

Josu García, "epoepo", The Vermin Swarm
725 Vermin Daemon, Thunderer, general
255 Chief, BSB, Skullsplitter, Crown of Scorn
140 4x10 Footpads, M
180 2x15 Plague Brotherhood, M
114 2x26 Slaves, M
180 3x8 Grenadiers
210 2x5 Jezzails
170 2x1 Plague Catapult
210 4x9 Plague Disciples
230 10 Plague Disciples
Total: 4498

Raúl Vela, "Feytor", Beast Herds
634 Beast Lord on razortusk chariot : General, Heavy Armour, Shield, Jacks Pickaxe, Dragonscale helm, Talisman of Sumpreme Shielding
362 Beast Chieftain: BSB, Greater Totem Bearer, heavy armour, shield, ring of fire, obsidian rock
485 Soothsayer: Wizard Master, 4 Spells, Druidism, sceptre of power, seed of the dark forest
120 10 Mongrel Raiders: Scout and ambush
160 2x10 Wildhorn Herd: Musician, Throwing Weapons, Ambush
463 47 Mongrel herd: spear, FCG
766 29 Longhorn Herd: FCG, Champion Totem Bearer Black Wing Totem, Stalkers Standard
140 2x5 Gargoyles
360 2x1 Cyclops
350 1 Beast Giant: ambush
Total 4500

Juan José Guerrini, Infernal Dwarves
635 Prophet, General, Wizard master, 4 spells, Alchemy/pyromancy, Essence of a free mind, Lucky Shield, Ring of Fire, Skull Splitter
210 Vizier, BSB, Hardened Shield
378 3x12 Citadel Guard, Flintlock Axe, C, M
500 20 Inmortals, infernal weapon, shield, M
130 2X5 Hobgoblin Wolf Riders
440 2x4 Kadim Incarnates
190 2x1 Infernal Artillery, Rocket Battery
90 2x1 Hobgoblin Bolt Thrower
160 2x1 Infernal Artillery, Volcano Cannon
TOTAL 4499

Pablo Ahumada, "Argen", Orcs & Goblins
330 Cave Goblin King: General, Crown of the Cavern King, crown of Autocracy, Talisman of Greater Shielding
200 Cave Goblin Chief: BSB, Icon of the Relentless Company , Obsidian Rock, Lucky Shield
575 Cave Goblin Witchdoctor: Wizard Master, 4 spells, Dispel scroll, Talisman of Shielding, Skull Splitter, Pyromancy
120 Common Goblin Chief on Wolf: Shield
130 Cave Goblin Chief: Maza's Zappin Bow, Shield
396 32 Cave Goblins: Bow, Musician, Champion, 2x Madgit
360 2x30 Cave Goblins: Bow, Musician, 2x Madgit
140 5 Common Orc Boars Riders
200 2x1 Git-launcher: Orcoverseer
200 Splatterer: Orcoverseer
140 2x1 Gnasher Wrecking Team
90 2x1 Scrap Wagon
174 2x6 Gnasher Dashers
120 2x5 Wolf Goblin Riders
120 2x1 Goblin Wolf Chariot
Total 4499

Iñigo “Uri” Uriarte – Ogre Khans
560 Great Khan: General, Khagadai´s Maul, Yeti Furs, Talisman of Greater Shielding
558 Shaman: Path of Pyromancy, 4 spells, Wizard Master, Iron Fist, Ring of fire, Obsidian Rock
365 Khan: BSB, Brace of Ogre Pistols, Stalker´s Standard, Gem of Fortune
977 13 Tribesmen: Iron Fists, M,S,C, Banner of Discipline
80 2x 15 Scraplings
160 2x2 Yetis
300 2x1 Thunder Cannon
480 2x1 Rock Aurochs, Hunting Spear
Total: 4500

Paulo Astorga, Dread Elves
566 Dread Prince, General, Elven Horse, Giant Sword, Dragonscale Helm, Lucky
Charm, Divine Icon, Heavy Armour, Shield
520 Oracle , Wizard Master, Divination, 3 Spells, Dispell Scroll, Ring of Fire
395 Captain, BSB, Elven Horse, Obsidian Rock, Hardened Shield, Flaming Standard, Heavy Armour, Lance
244 11 Corsairs - Core - Paired Weapons, Repeater Handbows, M
556 32 Dread Legionnaires, Spears, C, M
170 2 x 5 Dark Riders
130 5 Harpies
748 28 Executioners, C, M
340 Divine Altar
660 10 Dark Acolytes of Yema, C
Total: 4499

Daniel Bueno "Torceth" Empire of Sonnstahl
160 Marshal: General.
216 Marshal: BSB, shield, Ring of fire.
430 Wizard Master: 4 Spells, Essence of Free Mind, Pyromancy/Alchemy.
180 20 Heavy Infantry : Musician.
538 43 Heavy Infantry: M, C, S, Spear, Flaming Standard.
150 3x10 State Militia: Pistols, Skirmish.
686 37 Imperial Guard: M, S, C, Banner of Discipline.
330 2x3 Knights of the Sun Griffon: Lance, Shield, Musician.
280 Arcane Engine of Arcane Shield
440 Steam Tank
200 Imperial Artillery: Mortar.
260 Imperial Artillery: Cannon.
TOTAL: 4500

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Dim » Wed Jul 05, 2017 2:37 pm

The big question is "why on earth not follow T9A format and make some silly changes like"

- Points at the end
- Not allowing to write multiple time the same unit in one line, like
2x5 elein riders (nowhere in the format this is allowed)

This created a lot of confusion for us, (and for Argentina in the post above it seems)

One list in our Team has points in the beginning and not the end, but we did not realize until deadline.
Several of our lists use the 2x - syntax instead of listing 2 times the same thing.

We can change format if someone tell us how.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby eggsPR » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:02 pm

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby eggsPR » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:04 pm

eggsPR wrote:
Zaanash wrote:
Frederick wrote:it´s a pain that many teams did not even try at all to get the lists into the right format. i´m the last one to support being restrictive, but if i would have say i´d simply take a call that all teams that do not offer their lists in a proper format within 24h suffer a hefty penalty ...

i takes like 2 minutes per list to get it right and if every player would do it for his own list nobody can say it is too much work! expecting some already really hard working volunterr-chairmen will fix it for you lazy fools is bullsh%t and a massive lack of respect.

Get your stuff sorted! (i can tell you by heart what a pain it is to get such an amount of lists in a proper format, so i felt like i have to state this here, since i was really shocked and pissed when i had a look at the lists!)

Cheers
Fred :P


I agree with this, some lists are completely unreadable




To what degree should there be an enforcement? Even the Hungarian isn't exactly in the required format, though it's "good enough" for me, and I'm sure other people have different tolerances in terms of what's correct and what isn't.

Also, Shiny Metals, there is still the word Jaguar in your 10 Saurus Warriors unit - could cause confusion.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Zaanash » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:28 pm

I would prefer that we just focus our efforts on getting all the lists into a readable format and then leave it at that, any possible penalties due to illegal lists is up to the judges to decide as far as I'm concerned (and it is also good if they get used to the notion that they should -judge- and not only inform people in rules-disagreements)

The information regarding how to structure the lists have not exactly been 100% crystal clear this year (as have been pointed out a couple of times already), and I would rather make sure that we can start to prepare our pairing matrices (and test some matchups) instead of bickering on the forums.

There is currently a mix of different formats, but if we just sort out the worst offenders I agree that it should be good enough.
Forcing people to change fully readable lists into a slightly different format feels like a waste of time.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby Lagerlof » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:56 pm

I dont feel like punishing teams before the event even begins.

24h seems reasonable for fixing all errors and formats.

And we will take a look at the proposed changes soon, hopefully we/you can find all errors and similar that need fixing before we start deciding.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Postby ChiHammer » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:00 pm

Here is Mexico's list in the correct format. There was 2 changes one where my bsb was equipped with an illegal duplicate item (i was sleepy) and fixed to the correct item, and 2nd I goofed on our Infernal Dwarf player's mage. He had the item that heals his titan, not the power scepter. He said if its too late to change this he understands and will deal with it.


Mexico

James “ChiHammer” Silva - Orcs and Goblins - Captain

1 Iron Orc Warlord, General, Waaargh, Orc Boar Chariot, Great Weapon, Paired Weapons, Bluffers Helm, Sprout of Rebirth - 620 pts
1 Forest Goblin Chief, BSB, Bow, Shield, Pan’s Protection, War Standard - 194 pts
1 Forest Goblin Shaman, 4 Spells, Wizard Apprentice, Skull Splitter, Pyromancy - 355 pts
1 Forest Goblin Shaman, 3 Spells, Wizard Apprentice, Witchcraft - 240 pts
1 Forest Goblin King, Huntsmen Spider, Heavy Armor, Shield, Dragonscale Helm, Obsidian Sword, Talisman of Supreme Shielding - 386 pts

45 Common Goblins, bows, shields, 3 Shady Gits, C,M,S - 450 pts
20 Forest Goblins, Skirmish, Throwing Weapons, Bows, Veteran Standard: Banner of Discipline - 315 pts
30 Cave Goblins, bows, nets, Mad Gits x2, M - 420 pts

5 Common Goblin Raiders - 120 pts
3 Goblin Wolf Chariots - 320 pts
10 Iron Orcs , M - 220 pts
1 Gargantula - 480 pts
1 Green Idol - 380 pts

4500 pts

Jesse “The Juggernaut” Silva - Ogre Khans

1 Shaman, General, Rottenjaw, 4 Spells, Wizard Master, Iron Fist, Crown of Autocracy, Fire Blessing, Pyromancy - 648 pts
1 Khan, BSB, Troll Eater, Iron Fist, Yeti Furs , Stalker Standard - 460 pts
3 Bruisers - 165
3 Bruisers - 165
3 Bruisers - 165
17 Scraplins, Throwing Weapons, Scrapling Foreman, S - 152 pts
6 Tribesmen, Iron Fist, C, Veteran Standard : Banner of Displine - 481 pts
7 Mercenary Veterans, Iron Fist, C, S, Dragon Skin Banner, Poison, Thunderous Charge - 970 pts
1 Scratapult - 230
1 Scratapult - 230
1 Scratapult - 230
1 Thunder Cannon - 300 pts
1 Thunder Cannon - 300 pts

4496pts


Neil “Hamburger” Hamilton - Beast Herds

1 Beast Lord, Great Weapon, Hunting Call, Aaghor’s Flayed Hide, Crown of Thorns - 410 pts
1 Beast Chieftain, Battle Standard Bearer, Greater Totem Bearer, Raiding Chariot, Beast Axe, Shield, Armour of Fortune, Gourd of Beetles - 466pts
1 Soothsayer , 4 Spells, Wizard Master, Dark Rain, Skull Splitter, Shamanism - 550pts
35 Mongrel Herd, C, S - 300 pts
10 Mongrel Raiders - 100 pts
17 Wildhorn Herd, Ambush, Paired Weapons, Throwing Weapons, M,S, Gleaming Icon - 308 pts
13 Wildhorn Herd, Ambush, Paired Weapons, Throwing Weapons, M - 222pts
5 Centaurs, Paired Weapons, Throwing Weapons - 180pts
5 Centaurs, Paired Weapons, Throwing Weapons - 180pts
23 Longhorns, C,M,S, Totem Bearer: Black Wing Totem, Icon of Relentless Company - 592pts
6 Minotaurs, Paired Weapons, M - 530 pts
1 Raiding Chariot - 130pts
1 Razortusk Herd - 100 pts
1 Gortach - 430pts
4498

Alan “Sippycup Jr.” Martinni - Dwarven Holds

1 Engineer, Forge Repeater, Aether Loathestone, Rune of Retribution - 260 pts
10 Warriors, M - 140 pts
10 Warriors, M - 140 pts
30 GreyBeards, Great Weapons, M, S, Gleaming Icon
25 Seekers, M - 570
25 Seekers, M - 570
24 Seekers, M - 548
2 Steam Copters , Skirmish - 300 pts
2 Steam Copters, Skirmish - 300 pts
1 Steam Bomber - 200pts
1 Catapult - 320
10 Forge Warden, M - 300 pts
4498

Joseph “El Pyro” Abel - Infernal Dwarfs

1 Overlord, General, Shield, Onyx Hammer, Potion of Swiftness, Dragon Mantle, Sprout of Rebirth - 536 pts
1 Vizier, BSB, Shield, Infernal Weapon, Ring of Dessication, Mask of Furnace - 364 pts
1 Prophet , 4 Spells, Wizard Master, Besheluk’s Mechanism, Ring of Fire, Skull Splitter, Hardened Shield, Pyromancy - 625
28 Hobgoblins, Bows, M - 250pts
29 Hobgoblins, Bows, M - 260pts
19 Citadel Guard, Flint axe, M, 616pts
20 Immortals, Infernal Weapons, Shield, M, S, Flaming Standard
1 Kadim Titan - 600pts
1 Bound Deamon, Flame Cannon - 340pts
1 Bound Deamon, Flame Cannon - 340 pts
4496

Carlos “Charly” Romero - Vampire Coven

1 Necromancer, General, Wizard Apprentice, 1 Spell, Scepter of Power, The Dead Arise, Evocation - 210 pts
1 Necromancer, Wizard Apprentice, 1 Spell, Dispel Scroll, Evocation - 260pts
1 Necromancer, Wizard Apprentice, 1 Spell, Evocation - 210 pts
1 Necromancer, Wizard Apprentice, 1 Spell, Cadaver Wagon, Endless Horde, Evocation - 350 pts
38 Skeletons,Spears, M,S,C - 400pts
37 Skeletons, Spears , M, S - 370pts
21 Zombies , M - 136 pts
2 Great Bats - 80 pts
2 Great Bats - 80 pts
1 Altar of Undeath, Dark Tome - 460 pts
1 Altar of Undeath - 400 pts
4 Winged Reapers, Paired Weapons - 704 pts
35 Barrow Guard, Halberds, C,M,S, Banner of the Barrow King - 890pts
4500 pts

Lucas “Superorko” Hidalgo - Empire of the Sonnstahl

1 Marshal, General , Shield, Black Helm- 196 pts
1 Marshal, BSB, Shield,- 166 pts
1 Prelate, Shield - 166pts
1 Wizard, 4 Spells, Wizard Master, Essence of the Free Mind, Ring of Fire, Pyromancy, Alchemy - 480pts
50 Heavy Infantry, Spears, C,M,S, Flaming Standard - 615
20 Heavy Infantry, C, M - 200pts
11 State Militia, Skirmish, Pistols 165 pts
10 State Militia, Skirmish, Pistols, 150 pts
32 Imperial Guard, C,M,S - 561 pts
3 Knights of the Sun Griffon ,Shield, Lance - 310pts
3 Knights of the Sun Griffon , Shield, Lance - 310pts
1 Arcane Engine - 280 pts
1 Mortar - 200 pts
1 Cannon - 260pts
1 Steam Tank - 440 pts
4499 pts




Hector “El Antiguo Guardian” Pena Manterola - Daemonic Legions

1 Courtesan of Lust , General , 4 Spells, Wizard Apprentice, Eternal Sword, Seventh Seal, Dance of Death, Divination - 1220pts
1 Harbinger of Pestilence, Blight Fly, Halberd, Aura of Contamination - 510 pts
10 Horrors, C - 320 pts
11 Slaughterers C,S, Gleaming Icon - 285 pts
15 Sirens , C - 260pts
15 Sirens, C - 260 pts
5 Blight Flies - 620pts
5 Hellhounds , Ambush - 335pts
1 Blood Chariot - 330pts
5 Mounted Sirens - 180 pts
5 Mounted Sirens - 180 pts

4500pts


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