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2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby pizzaguardian » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:16 pm

List Submission has started.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1ohFLYA ... qV4ZTjIVn8


DEADLINE IS 23:59 CEST MONDAY JULY 3RD
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby pizzaguardian » Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:18 pm

Not really savvy with google docs, if i done goofed let me know.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby vince3310 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 3:36 pm

Hi,
When will you publish rosters?

Thanks a lot.

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby pizzaguardian » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:03 pm

vince3310 wrote:Hi,
When will you publish rosters?

Thanks a lot.

Vince


Most likely on july 4th if everything goes alright. But for that to happen people to need to submit their lists, at the moment i have 0 submitted.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby orion 76 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:49 pm

You'll probably receive them all between sunday and monday.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby vince3310 » Sun Jul 02, 2017 8:38 pm

Done for Team France
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby Gregor » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:04 pm

Should be ok for team Belgium too.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby ereius » Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:51 pm

Hi can you please extend list submission as we can not meet todays deadline. I ask at least till friday, ideally sunday, my apologises itsmy fault as i wasnt following this last 10days.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby Zaanash » Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:45 pm

Lists from Sweden sent in
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby kiri » Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:19 pm

Lists sent for Luxembourg.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby pizzaguardian » Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:23 pm

Lists received so far,

2- Luxembourg
3- France
5- Russia
9- Sweden
10-Denmark
13-Scotland
14-England
17-Serbia
23-Mexico
24-Netherlands
28-Spain
29- Belgium


There are some other submissions as well, but they are empty forms or just country names, so they need to be updated.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby eggsPR » Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:38 pm

Team USA submitted
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby AntonNikolov » Mon Jul 03, 2017 3:12 pm

Bulgaria submitted as well :)
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby pizzaguardian » Mon Jul 03, 2017 5:47 pm

Captains, what are your opinions on late list submission?

Malta declared they wouldnt be able to submit until friday.

Merc team is not yet fully formed so they can only submit half of their lists.

I think either we can push list submission until friday night, or allow late submissions with some penalties. ( merc team not subject to the penalty since teams declared they are attending as late as june 25th)
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby Grayfox » Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:31 pm

A deadline is a deadline. I say we keep it out of respect for those who submit their lists today. And that late submitters Get some kind of penalty. Lists have already started circulating among the teams that have submitted, so to move deadline now would be very wrong, IMO.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby ereius » Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:51 pm

Grayfox wrote:A deadline is a deadline. I say we keep it out of respect for those who submit their lists today. And that late submitters Get some kind of penalty. Lists have already started circulating among the teams that have submitted, so to move deadline now would be very wrong, IMO.

If a penaltu is imposed team malta will drop out. Its up to you folks.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby ereius » Mon Jul 03, 2017 6:59 pm

Grayfox wrote:A deadline is a deadline. I say we keep it out of respect for those who submit their lists today. And that late submitters Get some kind of penalty. Lists have already started circulating among the teams that have submitted, so to move deadline now would be very wrong, IMO.



If giving a couple of extra days is seriously being contested by my fellow capitians i officially request a vote on the issue.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby Zaanash » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:00 pm

Team Sweden agrees with Norway, deadlines are set for a reason and should be enforced.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby Lagerlof » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:01 pm

ereius wrote:
Grayfox wrote:A deadline is a deadline. I say we keep it out of respect for those who submit their lists today. And that late submitters Get some kind of penalty. Lists have already started circulating among the teams that have submitted, so to move deadline now would be very wrong, IMO.

If a penaltu is imposed team malta will drop out. Its up to you folks.


That's not how you get people to agree with you :P
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby ereius » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:17 pm

Im sorry but if asking for an extra couple of days is alot to ask for just because one person had a daughter borm then erk you all.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby Furion » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:19 pm

If Malta has problems with making a list on time, then please let the Malta captain contact me.
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We will unburden you of this hideous task of list making, because we are all cool guys :8)


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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby Grayfox » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:27 pm

ereius wrote:
Grayfox wrote:A deadline is a deadline. I say we keep it out of respect for those who submit their lists today. And that late submitters Get some kind of penalty. Lists have already started circulating among the teams that have submitted, so to move deadline now would be very wrong, IMO.



If giving a couple of extra days is seriously being contested by my fellow capitians i officially request a vote on the issue.


Dear ereius,

I have no intention to be bad guy/scapegoat for you not participating. I want as many teams as possible to participate. If this is a make or break question for you, I urge you/other bright heads to come up with a good solution. Because you put other teams in an awkward position. I have been working like a dog all day to collect lists from my own team. I have already traded lists with another team, and I am close to trading with others. If deadline is postponed, maybe some of the guys in my team will make changes to their list. So, what will the teams we have traded with think, us tailoring lists after reading theirs? Not a position I want to be in.

You can Ask for a captain's vote, but with 3,5 hours until deadline, I am not sure how many will vote in time. Why has not this question been raised before, why want until deadline day? That I do not understand. And you have been to ETC severely times, you now about list deadline one month prior.

I really hope we can solve this in a good manner. I really do. Just don't see exactly how.

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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby mike newman » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:30 pm

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ereius wrote:Im sorry but if asking for an extra couple of days is alot to ask for just because one person had a daughter borm then erk you all.



I find it very unlikely that you have 7 of 8 lists. And no idea whatsoever what the other person will take.

Every single team I know has been working on lists for months.

To ask for an extension hours before the deadline because one person had a baby seems like this situation could have been avoided very easily by yourself

I also think that if you are only missing one list, in pretty sure you could get that sorted in the remaining 3 hours

Team England supports sticking to the deadline we have had for a long time. And a strong penalty for any team which misses the deadline - as lists are already circulating (as always [-X )
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby eggsPR » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:36 pm

I recall Malta causing all kinds of drama in a prior year which resulted in the team abstaining from an ETC.

Seems things perhaps have not changed :(

Our team vote would be to adhere to the already-agreed-upon-and-very-well-known-to-everybody deadline, or receive a massive-and-appropriate penalty... or see you in 2018 (this is the least desired result, however this would be your decision to abstain (again?), not ours).

Rules are rules. Respect them.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby ereius » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:47 pm

Furion wrote:If Malta has problems with making a list on time, then please let the Malta captain contact me.
I can give you Team Poland rosters so you can copy it.
We will unburden you of this hideous task of list making, because we are all cool guys :8)


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You where always a piece of poop furion good for you no erk wonder no one on 9th age wanted you on board.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby el rey » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:08 pm

A deadline is a deadline. All other countries can not suffer because someone is not following. All know lists are turned in a month before and the ultimatum, of we will then not show up then, just makes this childish. How hard can it be to get 8 lists and summit them?

I would be ok if you can turn them in before the ETC lists are released to the teams. That should give you till at least some time tomorrow.
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby mike newman » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:12 pm

He does raise a valid point though in that we probably need a vote on what penalty for those who miss the deadline

Any suggestions?
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby ereius » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:21 pm

Can you at least give us 24 hours.... I need to get the lists an compile them in an email and honestly its the last thing i feel like doing today but il try my best out of respect for all of you. In all fairly this deadline has been posted less they 6 days ago...... does team Malta really scare you so much :twisted: you need an unfair advantage?
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby mike newman » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:23 pm

The list deadline has been in the pack since at least the 9th of May

Also the lists aren't sent by email

And you have other team members. Get one of the others to do it if you can't (I'm assuming because it's your child) - although if you spent time doing that not complaining on here could probably be done already
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Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

Postby pizzaguardian » Mon Jul 03, 2017 8:23 pm

No, the deadline is available in the rulespack drafts since start of May.
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