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by KeyserSoze
Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:35 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: ETC 2017 Rules and Penalties (everyone please read!!)
Replies: 32
Views: 2046

Re: ETC 2017 Rules and Penalties (everyone please read!!)

Seems like we need some drastic measures instead of going down the "please behave" road. I try to do my best but sone people act like 15y old spoiled kids and make me look like a dlck to the ones that are or feel the actual victims. It's not that I put my ego in front of that, but this is ...
by KeyserSoze
Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:24 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: Penalties
Replies: 73
Views: 5536

Re: Penalties

And what if a player uses his opponents past behaviour and falsely accuse him?
He can use his behaviour in previous games to turn a situation to his favour, right?
by KeyserSoze
Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:59 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Here's a compilation of all penalties we agreed upon for mistakes and/or corrections to lists. If we forgot something, let us know of course. 1. Team Austria: -1BP 2. Team Turkey: -1BP 3. Team Malta: -1BP 4. Team Italy: -1BP 5. Team Poland: -1BP 6. Team Russia: -1BP 7. Team Wales: -1BP 8. Team Ukrai...
by KeyserSoze
Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:15 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

The statement about "obvious" refered to tactics, not to what the armybook actually says.
Thus it's irrelevant to this case.
by KeyserSoze
Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:13 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Ok let me break this down a little. Advantage of taking Occultism ovet Evocation: different spells, some of which might me better. Advantage of hand weapon over spears: Parry. Advantage of spears on hobbos over bows: better cc phase. Advantage of no shields on goblins vs shields: [___] Fill in the l...
by KeyserSoze
Fri Jul 28, 2017 8:45 am
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Anyone still having a doubt on this, consider the following case as a comparison: 160 - Necromancer, wizard apprentice, evocation Should the above get a penalty too? He hasn't written "1 learned spell", which is free. Cost implies he has not bought extra spells. But, has he anything to gai...
by KeyserSoze
Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:26 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

The case about goblin shields is different from the other cases. Thus, we decided no penalty is needed in this one.
In other words: Player has absolutely no reason to NOT take shields. He gains nothing. Unlike hobgoblins' equipment, sky sloops, magic paths, spears on peasants etc.
by KeyserSoze
Tue Jul 25, 2017 8:48 pm
Forum: European Team Championships - General
Topic: Train travel to Salamanca
Replies: 8
Views: 344

Re: Train travel to Salamanca

Isn't it easier if you take the bus? I found tickets online that go straight from Barajas airport terminals to the city.
by KeyserSoze
Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:14 am
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

We prefer players to be a littl outside wysywig in terms of weapon/armour options than allowing changes to legal lists.
by KeyserSoze
Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:14 am
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

I'm 100% sure the Irish player is a good guy that did an honest mistake. Just like the rest of the players. Later on I will post the second wave of mistakes/request and our decisions and suggestions. Captains are free to discuss/vote/whatever and allow changes or illegal lists; they can do as they w...
by KeyserSoze
Tue Jul 18, 2017 7:21 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Hi guys We have just realized our KoE list never specified spears or hand weapons on the peasant blocks, correct list should be Denis Coffey - Kingdom of equitaine Blessing of the King Duke:General, humility, hardened shield, crown of autocracy, 290 Duke: humility 210 Damsel: wizard master, 4 spell...
by KeyserSoze
Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:39 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Hi All! Team Hungary made a little mistake. A wrong list copied at least - we are at hurry becuse of deadline. Can we make two obviously, and FREE Change? In the OG list, the general is Cave goblin, not common goblin (exatly the same point), and the goblin hero on wolf had shield (it is a free choc...
by KeyserSoze
Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:51 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

I'm on it, I'm really sorry for the delay but I'm a little alone in this ;-)
by KeyserSoze
Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:54 am
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

No, just saw it and brought in the internal, thanks.
by KeyserSoze
Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:57 am
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

We are aware, and will let you know later tonight.
by KeyserSoze
Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:05 am
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

spellviewer wrote:Team Russia accepts penalty, will be a lesson for us to recheck rosters more carefully, sorry for mistakes in list Т_Т


Thank you.
by KeyserSoze
Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:04 am
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Well, you understand the game better than me, so it shouldn't be hard for you to figure out. 8-[ And I'm not wasting anyone's time, as you can see, I'm here leaving nothing unanswered. But being available for Q&A does not mean I will change original decisions due to irrational complains and offe...
by KeyserSoze
Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:11 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

I'm ok with that. I'm a bad player that does not understand tactics, list building, etc. That's why I'm not player, but a ref. My job is to understand rules, which, it seems I do.

You can go on as long as you want with the insults, I'm not going to make any exceptions to any case.
by KeyserSoze
Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:03 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

It doesnt say good things about referes if they "do as they please" having logic in no regard. Are you really postulating that there is actual choice to be made when it comes to sky sloop weapons? And if, that withholding this choice gives actual advantage when it comes to list publicatio...
by KeyserSoze
Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:08 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Well, Orion, I certainly appreciate what you've done for the 9th age, and it's sad you sent the wrong list, but rules are rules. If we allowed such changes, we would open Aeolous' Sack, and certainly lose our credibility.

I really, really hope, that these(minor) penalties are the last we enforce.
by KeyserSoze
Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:10 am
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

In my opinion, forgiving an illegal list and punishing an illegal list, both having not chosen a mandatory option, would be highly unprofessional.
by KeyserSoze
Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:20 am
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

I agree that past years there were several mistakes that went unpunished. But we can't backtrack that and apply penalties in past events. Moreover, I can't find any better way to push players to be more careful with their lists. And I honestly don't care if a choice is highly unpopular, like storm p...
by KeyserSoze
Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:23 am
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Thank you Mike. It's not easy for us to become the bad guys and get in quarel, and you have to understand that the penalty is symbolic, rather than actually punishing.
by KeyserSoze
Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:15 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

We are here to discuss everything. Your attitude certainly does not help at all, but rather pushes us to "do as we please".
You can see the reply above you as an example ;-)
by KeyserSoze
Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:58 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections
Replies: 179
Views: 7911

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Corrections

Hello everyone. The 9th Age referees has discussed every case of mistakes in lists and requests in chages. Our decisions are the following: Case #1: Team Australia. A player wants to swap his list, because he sent his ESC list in the ETC document. Decision: Rejected. Case #2: Team Italy, ID player. ...
by KeyserSoze
Tue Jul 04, 2017 8:27 am
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission
Replies: 125
Views: 3568

Re: 2017 ETC T9A List Submission

So how to we stand with list corrections? Is it possible to implement a list correction prior to roster publication? Example: - minus 1 magic item + plus 1 cavalry model There was a mixup with lists, the change doesnt have great affect on the game, but if a way of correcting illegal builds with no ...
by KeyserSoze
Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:58 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: ETC T9A 2017 - Team United Nations volunteers needed
Replies: 13
Views: 610

Re: ETC T9A 2017 - Team United Nations volunteers needed

The problem is finding local players, not mercs. Anyway, team greece is still undecided, as they are trying to find sone locals.
by KeyserSoze
Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:56 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: 2017 ETC T9A Tournamen Pack Draft
Replies: 41
Views: 1445

Re: 2017 ETC T9A Tournamen Pack Draft

IMO we should consider times for last day, as many players use to book return flights on Sunday, right after ETC ends.
by KeyserSoze
Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:11 pm
Forum: European Team Championships - General
Topic: Chairmen's meetings summaries.
Replies: 47
Views: 6793

Re: Chairmen's meetings summaries.

To whom this might concern, I confirm my presence as a ref for ESC and ETC this year.
by KeyserSoze
Sun Jun 04, 2017 2:09 pm
Forum: Fantasy - European Team Championships
Topic: ETC T9A 2017 - Team United Nations volunteers needed
Replies: 13
Views: 610

Re: ETC T9A 2017 - Team United Nations volunteers needed

I spoke with greek team today, and they're probably dropping out, due to luck of players. I personally dont see a way of them finding the members needed, so consider this team non-participant. Greek captain's name is "medas" if you need to contact him for confirmation.

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